Jonas Yuan Vor 13 Jahren Nice feature - merging Organizations and Communities into one! Thanks, Jorge. Melden Sie sich an, um auf diesen Beitrag zu antworten. Antworten als... Abbrechen
danny chanyalew Vor 13 Jahren Any changes to content sharing across organizations or up/down line sharing on organization hierarchy? An explanation on what is possible now and how the new change in 6.1 affects this content sharing would be nice. Melden Sie sich an, um auf diesen Beitrag zu antworten. Antworten als... Abbrechen
Chris Whittle Vor 13 Jahren Has there been any changes to have parent child authority? As in if I have access to a parent org/community do I have access to all the children? Melden Sie sich an, um auf diesen Beitrag zu antworten. Antworten als... Abbrechen
Jorge Ferrer Vor 13 Jahren @Jonas, please note that we are NOT merging organizations and communities into one. That is an option that has been considered in the past but was discarded because it had drawbacks. The solution explained in this post is much better and preserves both Organizations and Communities (renamed as Sites), because each has a different purpose.@danny There was an interesting thread about this topic that you can follow in the following URL. The thread resulted in a decision to add support for a "liberal sharing mode" to the roadmap and it will be implemented in either 6.1 or 6.2: http://www.liferay.com/community/forums/-/message_boards/message/6772433@Chris Currently a user of an organization is considered a user of the parent organizations. For example, in Liferay's intranet a user of Liferay Spain is also a user of Liferay Europe. For administrators, it can also work up down, in the sense that an admin of an organization may also have permission to manage all suborganizations. Considering this, can you describe what use cases are you missing? Melden Sie sich an, um auf diesen Beitrag zu antworten. Antworten als... Abbrechen Sandeep Nair Jorge Ferrer Vor 13 Jahren Jorge correct me if I am wrong, from Liferay 6.1 Communities will be called as sites. When we create an Organization, there will be no Site associated with it(Which means it doesnt have it public and private pages). We need to create a site first and then associate it to an organization. Melden Sie sich an, um auf diesen Beitrag zu antworten. Antworten als... Abbrechen Chris Whittle Jorge Ferrer Vor 13 Jahren Is the members of the parent orgs new in 6? When we were trying to implement Liferay (originally in 5.1) we couldn't see any security that was inherited from parent communities. So we used communities. Melden Sie sich an, um auf diesen Beitrag zu antworten. Antworten als... Abbrechen Jorge Ferrer Chris Whittle Vor 13 Jahren @Sandeep. Yes, that's the way it will work. Although the creation of a site associated to an organization will also be possible from the administration of that organization to make sure we don't add complexity to the end user.@Chirstophe, I'm glad you like it. I also agree with the navigation menu based on the organization hierarchy. In fact, it wouldn't be hard to implement. Would you like to give it a try and contribute it? I'd be happy to review and commit it.@Oliver, to be completely honest, I haven't figured out how Olaf's junction points fit. The last time I talked to him we agreed that he would make it a plugin, but we haven't had a chance to talk for a while.@Chris, I think that improvement was made in 5.2, but it could have been 6.0 too. Melden Sie sich an, um auf diesen Beitrag zu antworten. Antworten als... Abbrechen Chris Whittle Jorge Ferrer Vor 13 Jahren Thanks Jorge that makes sense.... Now a bigger question is it possible to convert a community into an organization? Melden Sie sich an, um auf diesen Beitrag zu antworten. Antworten als... Abbrechen Jorge Ferrer Chris Whittle Vor 13 Jahren Hi Chris,With the new model, the common request of converting a community (Site) into an organization would be achieved by associating the site to an organization.The functionality of an organization will only be to organize users in a hierarchy and allow delegation of user management. Melden Sie sich an, um auf diesen Beitrag zu antworten. Antworten als... Abbrechen Chris Whittle Jorge Ferrer Vor 13 Jahren Yeah I want the ability to organize the users and delegate user management... So when we upgrade to 6.1 I will only have to associate the Community (now named site) to an organization? Melden Sie sich an, um auf diesen Beitrag zu antworten. Antworten als... Abbrechen Jorge Ferrer Chris Whittle Vor 13 Jahren Hi Chris,You can achieve that both in Liferay 6.0 and 6.1 using organizations. None of that changes. The only thing that changes is that if you want the organization that you have created to have pages then in 6.0 that would be achieved through a hidden Site and in 6.1 it won't be hidden to provide more flexibility. Melden Sie sich an, um auf diesen Beitrag zu antworten. Antworten als... Abbrechen Chris Whittle Jorge Ferrer Vor 13 Jahren But can I convert existing communities (I have around 30) to organizations to gain the new functionality? Melden Sie sich an, um auf diesen Beitrag zu antworten. Antworten als... Abbrechen Jorge Ferrer Chris Whittle Vor 13 Jahren Hi Chris,Existing communities will become Sites (just a name change) and yes it will be possible for you to associate them to organizations so that users of the organization automatically become members of the site and the name and description of the site is sync with that of the org. Melden Sie sich an, um auf diesen Beitrag zu antworten. Antworten als... Abbrechen Chris Whittle Jorge Ferrer Vor 13 Jahren awesome.. thanks for clearing that up! Melden Sie sich an, um auf diesen Beitrag zu antworten. Antworten als... Abbrechen Jonas Yuan Jorge Ferrer Vor 13 Jahren Thanks, Jorge. It seems organization and community are merged somehow, since organization has different types: regular, location, community-set and community. So what's different between regular org and community-set? and between location and community? And sites (renamed from Communities) covers different types: open, restricted, private and system (that is, any organization site). what's different among open | restricted | private site and system site?Thanks. Melden Sie sich an, um auf diesen Beitrag zu antworten. Antworten als... Abbrechen
Sandeep Nair Jorge Ferrer Vor 13 Jahren Jorge correct me if I am wrong, from Liferay 6.1 Communities will be called as sites. When we create an Organization, there will be no Site associated with it(Which means it doesnt have it public and private pages). We need to create a site first and then associate it to an organization. Melden Sie sich an, um auf diesen Beitrag zu antworten. Antworten als... Abbrechen
Chris Whittle Jorge Ferrer Vor 13 Jahren Is the members of the parent orgs new in 6? When we were trying to implement Liferay (originally in 5.1) we couldn't see any security that was inherited from parent communities. So we used communities. Melden Sie sich an, um auf diesen Beitrag zu antworten. Antworten als... Abbrechen Jorge Ferrer Chris Whittle Vor 13 Jahren @Sandeep. Yes, that's the way it will work. Although the creation of a site associated to an organization will also be possible from the administration of that organization to make sure we don't add complexity to the end user.@Chirstophe, I'm glad you like it. I also agree with the navigation menu based on the organization hierarchy. In fact, it wouldn't be hard to implement. Would you like to give it a try and contribute it? I'd be happy to review and commit it.@Oliver, to be completely honest, I haven't figured out how Olaf's junction points fit. The last time I talked to him we agreed that he would make it a plugin, but we haven't had a chance to talk for a while.@Chris, I think that improvement was made in 5.2, but it could have been 6.0 too. Melden Sie sich an, um auf diesen Beitrag zu antworten. Antworten als... Abbrechen Chris Whittle Jorge Ferrer Vor 13 Jahren Thanks Jorge that makes sense.... Now a bigger question is it possible to convert a community into an organization? Melden Sie sich an, um auf diesen Beitrag zu antworten. Antworten als... Abbrechen Jorge Ferrer Chris Whittle Vor 13 Jahren Hi Chris,With the new model, the common request of converting a community (Site) into an organization would be achieved by associating the site to an organization.The functionality of an organization will only be to organize users in a hierarchy and allow delegation of user management. Melden Sie sich an, um auf diesen Beitrag zu antworten. Antworten als... Abbrechen Chris Whittle Jorge Ferrer Vor 13 Jahren Yeah I want the ability to organize the users and delegate user management... So when we upgrade to 6.1 I will only have to associate the Community (now named site) to an organization? Melden Sie sich an, um auf diesen Beitrag zu antworten. Antworten als... Abbrechen Jorge Ferrer Chris Whittle Vor 13 Jahren Hi Chris,You can achieve that both in Liferay 6.0 and 6.1 using organizations. None of that changes. The only thing that changes is that if you want the organization that you have created to have pages then in 6.0 that would be achieved through a hidden Site and in 6.1 it won't be hidden to provide more flexibility. Melden Sie sich an, um auf diesen Beitrag zu antworten. Antworten als... Abbrechen Chris Whittle Jorge Ferrer Vor 13 Jahren But can I convert existing communities (I have around 30) to organizations to gain the new functionality? Melden Sie sich an, um auf diesen Beitrag zu antworten. Antworten als... Abbrechen Jorge Ferrer Chris Whittle Vor 13 Jahren Hi Chris,Existing communities will become Sites (just a name change) and yes it will be possible for you to associate them to organizations so that users of the organization automatically become members of the site and the name and description of the site is sync with that of the org. Melden Sie sich an, um auf diesen Beitrag zu antworten. Antworten als... Abbrechen Chris Whittle Jorge Ferrer Vor 13 Jahren awesome.. thanks for clearing that up! Melden Sie sich an, um auf diesen Beitrag zu antworten. Antworten als... Abbrechen
Jorge Ferrer Chris Whittle Vor 13 Jahren @Sandeep. Yes, that's the way it will work. Although the creation of a site associated to an organization will also be possible from the administration of that organization to make sure we don't add complexity to the end user.@Chirstophe, I'm glad you like it. I also agree with the navigation menu based on the organization hierarchy. In fact, it wouldn't be hard to implement. Would you like to give it a try and contribute it? I'd be happy to review and commit it.@Oliver, to be completely honest, I haven't figured out how Olaf's junction points fit. The last time I talked to him we agreed that he would make it a plugin, but we haven't had a chance to talk for a while.@Chris, I think that improvement was made in 5.2, but it could have been 6.0 too. Melden Sie sich an, um auf diesen Beitrag zu antworten. Antworten als... Abbrechen Chris Whittle Jorge Ferrer Vor 13 Jahren Thanks Jorge that makes sense.... Now a bigger question is it possible to convert a community into an organization? Melden Sie sich an, um auf diesen Beitrag zu antworten. Antworten als... Abbrechen Jorge Ferrer Chris Whittle Vor 13 Jahren Hi Chris,With the new model, the common request of converting a community (Site) into an organization would be achieved by associating the site to an organization.The functionality of an organization will only be to organize users in a hierarchy and allow delegation of user management. Melden Sie sich an, um auf diesen Beitrag zu antworten. Antworten als... Abbrechen Chris Whittle Jorge Ferrer Vor 13 Jahren Yeah I want the ability to organize the users and delegate user management... So when we upgrade to 6.1 I will only have to associate the Community (now named site) to an organization? Melden Sie sich an, um auf diesen Beitrag zu antworten. Antworten als... Abbrechen Jorge Ferrer Chris Whittle Vor 13 Jahren Hi Chris,You can achieve that both in Liferay 6.0 and 6.1 using organizations. None of that changes. The only thing that changes is that if you want the organization that you have created to have pages then in 6.0 that would be achieved through a hidden Site and in 6.1 it won't be hidden to provide more flexibility. Melden Sie sich an, um auf diesen Beitrag zu antworten. Antworten als... Abbrechen Chris Whittle Jorge Ferrer Vor 13 Jahren But can I convert existing communities (I have around 30) to organizations to gain the new functionality? Melden Sie sich an, um auf diesen Beitrag zu antworten. Antworten als... Abbrechen Jorge Ferrer Chris Whittle Vor 13 Jahren Hi Chris,Existing communities will become Sites (just a name change) and yes it will be possible for you to associate them to organizations so that users of the organization automatically become members of the site and the name and description of the site is sync with that of the org. Melden Sie sich an, um auf diesen Beitrag zu antworten. Antworten als... Abbrechen Chris Whittle Jorge Ferrer Vor 13 Jahren awesome.. thanks for clearing that up! Melden Sie sich an, um auf diesen Beitrag zu antworten. Antworten als... Abbrechen
Chris Whittle Jorge Ferrer Vor 13 Jahren Thanks Jorge that makes sense.... Now a bigger question is it possible to convert a community into an organization? Melden Sie sich an, um auf diesen Beitrag zu antworten. Antworten als... Abbrechen Jorge Ferrer Chris Whittle Vor 13 Jahren Hi Chris,With the new model, the common request of converting a community (Site) into an organization would be achieved by associating the site to an organization.The functionality of an organization will only be to organize users in a hierarchy and allow delegation of user management. Melden Sie sich an, um auf diesen Beitrag zu antworten. Antworten als... Abbrechen Chris Whittle Jorge Ferrer Vor 13 Jahren Yeah I want the ability to organize the users and delegate user management... So when we upgrade to 6.1 I will only have to associate the Community (now named site) to an organization? Melden Sie sich an, um auf diesen Beitrag zu antworten. Antworten als... Abbrechen Jorge Ferrer Chris Whittle Vor 13 Jahren Hi Chris,You can achieve that both in Liferay 6.0 and 6.1 using organizations. None of that changes. The only thing that changes is that if you want the organization that you have created to have pages then in 6.0 that would be achieved through a hidden Site and in 6.1 it won't be hidden to provide more flexibility. Melden Sie sich an, um auf diesen Beitrag zu antworten. Antworten als... Abbrechen Chris Whittle Jorge Ferrer Vor 13 Jahren But can I convert existing communities (I have around 30) to organizations to gain the new functionality? Melden Sie sich an, um auf diesen Beitrag zu antworten. Antworten als... Abbrechen Jorge Ferrer Chris Whittle Vor 13 Jahren Hi Chris,Existing communities will become Sites (just a name change) and yes it will be possible for you to associate them to organizations so that users of the organization automatically become members of the site and the name and description of the site is sync with that of the org. Melden Sie sich an, um auf diesen Beitrag zu antworten. Antworten als... Abbrechen Chris Whittle Jorge Ferrer Vor 13 Jahren awesome.. thanks for clearing that up! Melden Sie sich an, um auf diesen Beitrag zu antworten. Antworten als... Abbrechen
Jorge Ferrer Chris Whittle Vor 13 Jahren Hi Chris,With the new model, the common request of converting a community (Site) into an organization would be achieved by associating the site to an organization.The functionality of an organization will only be to organize users in a hierarchy and allow delegation of user management. Melden Sie sich an, um auf diesen Beitrag zu antworten. Antworten als... Abbrechen Chris Whittle Jorge Ferrer Vor 13 Jahren Yeah I want the ability to organize the users and delegate user management... So when we upgrade to 6.1 I will only have to associate the Community (now named site) to an organization? Melden Sie sich an, um auf diesen Beitrag zu antworten. Antworten als... Abbrechen Jorge Ferrer Chris Whittle Vor 13 Jahren Hi Chris,You can achieve that both in Liferay 6.0 and 6.1 using organizations. None of that changes. The only thing that changes is that if you want the organization that you have created to have pages then in 6.0 that would be achieved through a hidden Site and in 6.1 it won't be hidden to provide more flexibility. Melden Sie sich an, um auf diesen Beitrag zu antworten. Antworten als... Abbrechen Chris Whittle Jorge Ferrer Vor 13 Jahren But can I convert existing communities (I have around 30) to organizations to gain the new functionality? Melden Sie sich an, um auf diesen Beitrag zu antworten. Antworten als... Abbrechen Jorge Ferrer Chris Whittle Vor 13 Jahren Hi Chris,Existing communities will become Sites (just a name change) and yes it will be possible for you to associate them to organizations so that users of the organization automatically become members of the site and the name and description of the site is sync with that of the org. Melden Sie sich an, um auf diesen Beitrag zu antworten. Antworten als... Abbrechen Chris Whittle Jorge Ferrer Vor 13 Jahren awesome.. thanks for clearing that up! Melden Sie sich an, um auf diesen Beitrag zu antworten. Antworten als... Abbrechen
Chris Whittle Jorge Ferrer Vor 13 Jahren Yeah I want the ability to organize the users and delegate user management... So when we upgrade to 6.1 I will only have to associate the Community (now named site) to an organization? Melden Sie sich an, um auf diesen Beitrag zu antworten. Antworten als... Abbrechen Jorge Ferrer Chris Whittle Vor 13 Jahren Hi Chris,You can achieve that both in Liferay 6.0 and 6.1 using organizations. None of that changes. The only thing that changes is that if you want the organization that you have created to have pages then in 6.0 that would be achieved through a hidden Site and in 6.1 it won't be hidden to provide more flexibility. Melden Sie sich an, um auf diesen Beitrag zu antworten. Antworten als... Abbrechen Chris Whittle Jorge Ferrer Vor 13 Jahren But can I convert existing communities (I have around 30) to organizations to gain the new functionality? Melden Sie sich an, um auf diesen Beitrag zu antworten. Antworten als... Abbrechen Jorge Ferrer Chris Whittle Vor 13 Jahren Hi Chris,Existing communities will become Sites (just a name change) and yes it will be possible for you to associate them to organizations so that users of the organization automatically become members of the site and the name and description of the site is sync with that of the org. Melden Sie sich an, um auf diesen Beitrag zu antworten. Antworten als... Abbrechen Chris Whittle Jorge Ferrer Vor 13 Jahren awesome.. thanks for clearing that up! Melden Sie sich an, um auf diesen Beitrag zu antworten. Antworten als... Abbrechen
Jorge Ferrer Chris Whittle Vor 13 Jahren Hi Chris,You can achieve that both in Liferay 6.0 and 6.1 using organizations. None of that changes. The only thing that changes is that if you want the organization that you have created to have pages then in 6.0 that would be achieved through a hidden Site and in 6.1 it won't be hidden to provide more flexibility. Melden Sie sich an, um auf diesen Beitrag zu antworten. Antworten als... Abbrechen Chris Whittle Jorge Ferrer Vor 13 Jahren But can I convert existing communities (I have around 30) to organizations to gain the new functionality? Melden Sie sich an, um auf diesen Beitrag zu antworten. Antworten als... Abbrechen Jorge Ferrer Chris Whittle Vor 13 Jahren Hi Chris,Existing communities will become Sites (just a name change) and yes it will be possible for you to associate them to organizations so that users of the organization automatically become members of the site and the name and description of the site is sync with that of the org. Melden Sie sich an, um auf diesen Beitrag zu antworten. Antworten als... Abbrechen Chris Whittle Jorge Ferrer Vor 13 Jahren awesome.. thanks for clearing that up! Melden Sie sich an, um auf diesen Beitrag zu antworten. Antworten als... Abbrechen
Chris Whittle Jorge Ferrer Vor 13 Jahren But can I convert existing communities (I have around 30) to organizations to gain the new functionality? Melden Sie sich an, um auf diesen Beitrag zu antworten. Antworten als... Abbrechen Jorge Ferrer Chris Whittle Vor 13 Jahren Hi Chris,Existing communities will become Sites (just a name change) and yes it will be possible for you to associate them to organizations so that users of the organization automatically become members of the site and the name and description of the site is sync with that of the org. Melden Sie sich an, um auf diesen Beitrag zu antworten. Antworten als... Abbrechen Chris Whittle Jorge Ferrer Vor 13 Jahren awesome.. thanks for clearing that up! Melden Sie sich an, um auf diesen Beitrag zu antworten. Antworten als... Abbrechen
Jorge Ferrer Chris Whittle Vor 13 Jahren Hi Chris,Existing communities will become Sites (just a name change) and yes it will be possible for you to associate them to organizations so that users of the organization automatically become members of the site and the name and description of the site is sync with that of the org. Melden Sie sich an, um auf diesen Beitrag zu antworten. Antworten als... Abbrechen Chris Whittle Jorge Ferrer Vor 13 Jahren awesome.. thanks for clearing that up! Melden Sie sich an, um auf diesen Beitrag zu antworten. Antworten als... Abbrechen
Chris Whittle Jorge Ferrer Vor 13 Jahren awesome.. thanks for clearing that up! Melden Sie sich an, um auf diesen Beitrag zu antworten. Antworten als... Abbrechen
Jonas Yuan Jorge Ferrer Vor 13 Jahren Thanks, Jorge. It seems organization and community are merged somehow, since organization has different types: regular, location, community-set and community. So what's different between regular org and community-set? and between location and community? And sites (renamed from Communities) covers different types: open, restricted, private and system (that is, any organization site). what's different among open | restricted | private site and system site?Thanks. Melden Sie sich an, um auf diesen Beitrag zu antworten. Antworten als... Abbrechen
Christophe Cariou Vor 13 Jahren Good improvement. That makes sense.One thing that would be great is some of navigation menu based upon the organisations hierarchies. Melden Sie sich an, um auf diesen Beitrag zu antworten. Antworten als... Abbrechen
Oliver Bayer Vor 13 Jahren Are there any plans to integrate and implement the junction points feature shown by Olaf Fricke at the European Symposium last year? It would make the navigation through communities much easier if the user is able to hook the page structure from other communites dynamically. Melden Sie sich an, um auf diesen Beitrag zu antworten. Antworten als... Abbrechen
Lekan Omotayo Vor 13 Jahren Hi,I'd like to know how I can add a site to an organization in social office. I cant seem to find where to do this. Melden Sie sich an, um auf diesen Beitrag zu antworten. Antworten als... Abbrechen Lekan Omotayo Lekan Omotayo Vor 13 Jahren Also, I also will like to know how I can make the organization's site the default page when a user for that organization logs in. Melden Sie sich an, um auf diesen Beitrag zu antworten. Antworten als... Abbrechen Jorge Ferrer Lekan Omotayo Vor 13 Jahren Hi Lekan,AFAIK, there is no way to do that in the current version in Social Office, but that will most probably be possible in the next version (based on Liferay Portal 6.1) which will benefit from the improvements described in this post. Melden Sie sich an, um auf diesen Beitrag zu antworten. Antworten als... Abbrechen Lekan Omotayo Jorge Ferrer Vor 13 Jahren Does your answer apply to both question? Adding site to organization and setting an organization's default page when a user attached to that org signs in. Melden Sie sich an, um auf diesen Beitrag zu antworten. Antworten als... Abbrechen
Lekan Omotayo Lekan Omotayo Vor 13 Jahren Also, I also will like to know how I can make the organization's site the default page when a user for that organization logs in. Melden Sie sich an, um auf diesen Beitrag zu antworten. Antworten als... Abbrechen Jorge Ferrer Lekan Omotayo Vor 13 Jahren Hi Lekan,AFAIK, there is no way to do that in the current version in Social Office, but that will most probably be possible in the next version (based on Liferay Portal 6.1) which will benefit from the improvements described in this post. Melden Sie sich an, um auf diesen Beitrag zu antworten. Antworten als... Abbrechen Lekan Omotayo Jorge Ferrer Vor 13 Jahren Does your answer apply to both question? Adding site to organization and setting an organization's default page when a user attached to that org signs in. Melden Sie sich an, um auf diesen Beitrag zu antworten. Antworten als... Abbrechen
Jorge Ferrer Lekan Omotayo Vor 13 Jahren Hi Lekan,AFAIK, there is no way to do that in the current version in Social Office, but that will most probably be possible in the next version (based on Liferay Portal 6.1) which will benefit from the improvements described in this post. Melden Sie sich an, um auf diesen Beitrag zu antworten. Antworten als... Abbrechen Lekan Omotayo Jorge Ferrer Vor 13 Jahren Does your answer apply to both question? Adding site to organization and setting an organization's default page when a user attached to that org signs in. Melden Sie sich an, um auf diesen Beitrag zu antworten. Antworten als... Abbrechen
Lekan Omotayo Jorge Ferrer Vor 13 Jahren Does your answer apply to both question? Adding site to organization and setting an organization's default page when a user attached to that org signs in. Melden Sie sich an, um auf diesen Beitrag zu antworten. Antworten als... Abbrechen
John O'Neill Vor 13 Jahren Thanks Jorge. I've been asking for a good definition around the question for a while... great description. Melden Sie sich an, um auf diesen Beitrag zu antworten. Antworten als... Abbrechen
Dave Weitzel Vor 13 Jahren When is 6.1 to be released?This streamlining may make things easier for us so long as we can still have pour own types of organization and hierarchy (we use committees a lot) and that when creating an organization you can specify the site (public/private templates) at the same time as most of our organizations will require them. Melden Sie sich an, um auf diesen Beitrag zu antworten. Antworten als... Abbrechen Jorge Ferrer Dave Weitzel Vor 13 Jahren Hi Dave,I'm glad that you find this improvement useful.There is no public target date for 6.1 yet, but we are hoping to have a production ready version before the end of the year. Melden Sie sich an, um auf diesen Beitrag zu antworten. Antworten als... Abbrechen Joss Sanglier Jorge Ferrer Vor 13 Jahren I know this sounds silly, but would it be possible to change what sites/communities are called?For instance, in the current portal we are developing, which will be merged into a game, "Communities" is the perfect name for what we need for how players are grouped. "Sites" simply doesn't describe it well enough.I think there is also a possible confusion since it is logical to be a member of a "group" or "community" but there is little logic to being a member of a "Site." Yes, I know this is splitting hairs, but most applications like liferay are used by non technical people and therefore the nomenclature really needs to define what is being offered.Assuming the basic premise remains the same, that is a Site or Community is a function for collecting users together for the purpose of interacting with a series of applications (including site building apps), then it would be really useful if how these are named and described can be altered by the admin to suit the particular need of the portal.Liferay is very definitely NOT Google Sites, after all. Melden Sie sich an, um auf diesen Beitrag zu antworten. Antworten als... Abbrechen Jorge Ferrer Joss Sanglier Vor 13 Jahren Hi Joss,Those are definitely good points. The option to rename Sites as Communities will always be there just by overriding the keys in Language.properties that use the term.Another thing I plan to do is to provide some default site templates that use specific terms such as Community, Corporate Site, etc. That way when a user clicks the "Add" button within the Sites portlet he will need to decide as the first step whether he will be creating a Community or something else. Adding to that the fact that it will be possible to filter out which types of sites each user can create, then you get almost what you want.I guess the only issue would be the term of the entry in the Control Panel menu. Would that be a big deal in your case? Melden Sie sich an, um auf diesen Beitrag zu antworten. Antworten als... Abbrechen Joss Sanglier Jorge Ferrer Vor 13 Jahren HI JorgeIt was more from the control panel I was thinking. In a very complicated portal such as ours where much of the administration is done by a moderation team with assorted permissions, there would be situations where they would need to have control over communities/sites - either because they are creating them or because they need to manage them in a particular way (remove some pages, for instance)I think I can see some confusion growing between what is a group of people and what is a website.To me I tend to think of it with the following flow:1. A group of people come together and we call that a Community of people.2. The Community has tools to help them interact - although these are web based tools such as forums or personal messaging, they are seen as distinct from a Web Site.3. The Community decides to create a website for their community using tools provided.In a slightly odd way Liferay provides for this flow with public and private pages. As an admin I would set up a Community Template that has one public page with something innocuous on it like "Community X" right in the middle. I would then put set community tools on the private pages. (I am ignoring for the moment that the community can add their own pages).The community uses the private pages for establishing and conducting community affairs.If they want to create a "Site" then they would edit the public page.hmmmMaybe this is where the problem lies - rather than in what a Community is, perhaps it is in defining what the Public and Private pages are.I am not against changing a "Community" to a "Site" but I feel that it only addresses half a problem or a problem that only some people have. For some they are grouping people to create sites, for others they are grouping people to create communities. Most, I would suspect, are creating both at the same time - a community which then creates a site.(You could go cross eyes working out the semantics here)At the moment, while we are in design phase, we are being tripped up by this very confusion.A community will be created by an action in the online game. The grouping in the game will define the membership of the community (we will not allow members to join these communities via the portal itself).Once created, the Community is managed by the person who triggered the creation via the game (interestingly, they will not be the owner - that will be a shadowy figure they have no control over since we do not want any of them to have ownership rights).So, this is a community.Now, as part of their tool box, the members of that community can create their Site (public pages) if they so wish. As you can see there is a very defined difference between the community and their public presence - their "Site" if you like.Actually, I dont think this is confined to our particular use of Liferay; I think this is how human beings think naturally. We are a tribal creature and we define everything in those sorts of terms. Melden Sie sich an, um auf diesen Beitrag zu antworten. Antworten als... Abbrechen Jorge Ferrer Joss Sanglier Vor 13 Jahren - Bearbeitet Hi Joss,Thanks a lot for your very detailed description. There are several aspects of it that I found very interesting and would like to discuss further about them.Since the comments in a blog post are not a very comfortable way for this type of discussions and I want anybody interested to participate, I've taken the liberty to create a new thread within the Core Dev in the forum. If you don't mind I'd like to follow the conversation there. I'm going to wait a day to answer to see if more people want to share what they think (and also to order some proposals I have in mind).http://www.liferay.com/community/forums/-/message_boards/message/8086106 Melden Sie sich an, um auf diesen Beitrag zu antworten. Antworten als... Abbrechen Joss Sanglier Jorge Ferrer Vor 13 Jahren Hi Jorge - that link doesn't appear to go anywhere Melden Sie sich an, um auf diesen Beitrag zu antworten. Antworten als... Abbrechen SZ khan Joss Sanglier Vor 13 Jahren http://www.liferay.com/community/forums/-/message_boards/message/8086106 Melden Sie sich an, um auf diesen Beitrag zu antworten. Antworten als... Abbrechen Jorge Ferrer Joss Sanglier Vor 13 Jahren Sorry about that, I've just fixed the link.@SZ Khan. Thanks for finding the correct link and publishing it here. Melden Sie sich an, um auf diesen Beitrag zu antworten. Antworten als... Abbrechen Lirone75 M. Jorge Ferrer Vor 12 Jahren I didn't understood anything you talking about.Organization, Community, site etc...From the outside, it seems, you solve problem that you introduced and you are the only one to understand and that will have a low benefit at the final for the user.If you have something to change it's not just changing a name but for example to break the static bound that exists between content (for exemple Web content) and the community/organization. A content is a content, and a system of permission should be made to be able to associate this content in the king of entities/pages. Melden Sie sich an, um auf diesen Beitrag zu antworten. Antworten als... Abbrechen
Jorge Ferrer Dave Weitzel Vor 13 Jahren Hi Dave,I'm glad that you find this improvement useful.There is no public target date for 6.1 yet, but we are hoping to have a production ready version before the end of the year. Melden Sie sich an, um auf diesen Beitrag zu antworten. Antworten als... Abbrechen Joss Sanglier Jorge Ferrer Vor 13 Jahren I know this sounds silly, but would it be possible to change what sites/communities are called?For instance, in the current portal we are developing, which will be merged into a game, "Communities" is the perfect name for what we need for how players are grouped. "Sites" simply doesn't describe it well enough.I think there is also a possible confusion since it is logical to be a member of a "group" or "community" but there is little logic to being a member of a "Site." Yes, I know this is splitting hairs, but most applications like liferay are used by non technical people and therefore the nomenclature really needs to define what is being offered.Assuming the basic premise remains the same, that is a Site or Community is a function for collecting users together for the purpose of interacting with a series of applications (including site building apps), then it would be really useful if how these are named and described can be altered by the admin to suit the particular need of the portal.Liferay is very definitely NOT Google Sites, after all. Melden Sie sich an, um auf diesen Beitrag zu antworten. Antworten als... Abbrechen Jorge Ferrer Joss Sanglier Vor 13 Jahren Hi Joss,Those are definitely good points. The option to rename Sites as Communities will always be there just by overriding the keys in Language.properties that use the term.Another thing I plan to do is to provide some default site templates that use specific terms such as Community, Corporate Site, etc. That way when a user clicks the "Add" button within the Sites portlet he will need to decide as the first step whether he will be creating a Community or something else. Adding to that the fact that it will be possible to filter out which types of sites each user can create, then you get almost what you want.I guess the only issue would be the term of the entry in the Control Panel menu. Would that be a big deal in your case? Melden Sie sich an, um auf diesen Beitrag zu antworten. Antworten als... Abbrechen Joss Sanglier Jorge Ferrer Vor 13 Jahren HI JorgeIt was more from the control panel I was thinking. In a very complicated portal such as ours where much of the administration is done by a moderation team with assorted permissions, there would be situations where they would need to have control over communities/sites - either because they are creating them or because they need to manage them in a particular way (remove some pages, for instance)I think I can see some confusion growing between what is a group of people and what is a website.To me I tend to think of it with the following flow:1. A group of people come together and we call that a Community of people.2. The Community has tools to help them interact - although these are web based tools such as forums or personal messaging, they are seen as distinct from a Web Site.3. The Community decides to create a website for their community using tools provided.In a slightly odd way Liferay provides for this flow with public and private pages. As an admin I would set up a Community Template that has one public page with something innocuous on it like "Community X" right in the middle. I would then put set community tools on the private pages. (I am ignoring for the moment that the community can add their own pages).The community uses the private pages for establishing and conducting community affairs.If they want to create a "Site" then they would edit the public page.hmmmMaybe this is where the problem lies - rather than in what a Community is, perhaps it is in defining what the Public and Private pages are.I am not against changing a "Community" to a "Site" but I feel that it only addresses half a problem or a problem that only some people have. For some they are grouping people to create sites, for others they are grouping people to create communities. Most, I would suspect, are creating both at the same time - a community which then creates a site.(You could go cross eyes working out the semantics here)At the moment, while we are in design phase, we are being tripped up by this very confusion.A community will be created by an action in the online game. The grouping in the game will define the membership of the community (we will not allow members to join these communities via the portal itself).Once created, the Community is managed by the person who triggered the creation via the game (interestingly, they will not be the owner - that will be a shadowy figure they have no control over since we do not want any of them to have ownership rights).So, this is a community.Now, as part of their tool box, the members of that community can create their Site (public pages) if they so wish. As you can see there is a very defined difference between the community and their public presence - their "Site" if you like.Actually, I dont think this is confined to our particular use of Liferay; I think this is how human beings think naturally. We are a tribal creature and we define everything in those sorts of terms. Melden Sie sich an, um auf diesen Beitrag zu antworten. Antworten als... Abbrechen Jorge Ferrer Joss Sanglier Vor 13 Jahren - Bearbeitet Hi Joss,Thanks a lot for your very detailed description. There are several aspects of it that I found very interesting and would like to discuss further about them.Since the comments in a blog post are not a very comfortable way for this type of discussions and I want anybody interested to participate, I've taken the liberty to create a new thread within the Core Dev in the forum. If you don't mind I'd like to follow the conversation there. I'm going to wait a day to answer to see if more people want to share what they think (and also to order some proposals I have in mind).http://www.liferay.com/community/forums/-/message_boards/message/8086106 Melden Sie sich an, um auf diesen Beitrag zu antworten. Antworten als... Abbrechen Joss Sanglier Jorge Ferrer Vor 13 Jahren Hi Jorge - that link doesn't appear to go anywhere Melden Sie sich an, um auf diesen Beitrag zu antworten. Antworten als... Abbrechen SZ khan Joss Sanglier Vor 13 Jahren http://www.liferay.com/community/forums/-/message_boards/message/8086106 Melden Sie sich an, um auf diesen Beitrag zu antworten. Antworten als... Abbrechen Jorge Ferrer Joss Sanglier Vor 13 Jahren Sorry about that, I've just fixed the link.@SZ Khan. Thanks for finding the correct link and publishing it here. Melden Sie sich an, um auf diesen Beitrag zu antworten. Antworten als... Abbrechen Lirone75 M. Jorge Ferrer Vor 12 Jahren I didn't understood anything you talking about.Organization, Community, site etc...From the outside, it seems, you solve problem that you introduced and you are the only one to understand and that will have a low benefit at the final for the user.If you have something to change it's not just changing a name but for example to break the static bound that exists between content (for exemple Web content) and the community/organization. A content is a content, and a system of permission should be made to be able to associate this content in the king of entities/pages. Melden Sie sich an, um auf diesen Beitrag zu antworten. Antworten als... Abbrechen
Joss Sanglier Jorge Ferrer Vor 13 Jahren I know this sounds silly, but would it be possible to change what sites/communities are called?For instance, in the current portal we are developing, which will be merged into a game, "Communities" is the perfect name for what we need for how players are grouped. "Sites" simply doesn't describe it well enough.I think there is also a possible confusion since it is logical to be a member of a "group" or "community" but there is little logic to being a member of a "Site." Yes, I know this is splitting hairs, but most applications like liferay are used by non technical people and therefore the nomenclature really needs to define what is being offered.Assuming the basic premise remains the same, that is a Site or Community is a function for collecting users together for the purpose of interacting with a series of applications (including site building apps), then it would be really useful if how these are named and described can be altered by the admin to suit the particular need of the portal.Liferay is very definitely NOT Google Sites, after all. Melden Sie sich an, um auf diesen Beitrag zu antworten. Antworten als... Abbrechen Jorge Ferrer Joss Sanglier Vor 13 Jahren Hi Joss,Those are definitely good points. The option to rename Sites as Communities will always be there just by overriding the keys in Language.properties that use the term.Another thing I plan to do is to provide some default site templates that use specific terms such as Community, Corporate Site, etc. That way when a user clicks the "Add" button within the Sites portlet he will need to decide as the first step whether he will be creating a Community or something else. Adding to that the fact that it will be possible to filter out which types of sites each user can create, then you get almost what you want.I guess the only issue would be the term of the entry in the Control Panel menu. Would that be a big deal in your case? Melden Sie sich an, um auf diesen Beitrag zu antworten. Antworten als... Abbrechen Joss Sanglier Jorge Ferrer Vor 13 Jahren HI JorgeIt was more from the control panel I was thinking. In a very complicated portal such as ours where much of the administration is done by a moderation team with assorted permissions, there would be situations where they would need to have control over communities/sites - either because they are creating them or because they need to manage them in a particular way (remove some pages, for instance)I think I can see some confusion growing between what is a group of people and what is a website.To me I tend to think of it with the following flow:1. A group of people come together and we call that a Community of people.2. The Community has tools to help them interact - although these are web based tools such as forums or personal messaging, they are seen as distinct from a Web Site.3. The Community decides to create a website for their community using tools provided.In a slightly odd way Liferay provides for this flow with public and private pages. As an admin I would set up a Community Template that has one public page with something innocuous on it like "Community X" right in the middle. I would then put set community tools on the private pages. (I am ignoring for the moment that the community can add their own pages).The community uses the private pages for establishing and conducting community affairs.If they want to create a "Site" then they would edit the public page.hmmmMaybe this is where the problem lies - rather than in what a Community is, perhaps it is in defining what the Public and Private pages are.I am not against changing a "Community" to a "Site" but I feel that it only addresses half a problem or a problem that only some people have. For some they are grouping people to create sites, for others they are grouping people to create communities. Most, I would suspect, are creating both at the same time - a community which then creates a site.(You could go cross eyes working out the semantics here)At the moment, while we are in design phase, we are being tripped up by this very confusion.A community will be created by an action in the online game. The grouping in the game will define the membership of the community (we will not allow members to join these communities via the portal itself).Once created, the Community is managed by the person who triggered the creation via the game (interestingly, they will not be the owner - that will be a shadowy figure they have no control over since we do not want any of them to have ownership rights).So, this is a community.Now, as part of their tool box, the members of that community can create their Site (public pages) if they so wish. As you can see there is a very defined difference between the community and their public presence - their "Site" if you like.Actually, I dont think this is confined to our particular use of Liferay; I think this is how human beings think naturally. We are a tribal creature and we define everything in those sorts of terms. Melden Sie sich an, um auf diesen Beitrag zu antworten. Antworten als... Abbrechen Jorge Ferrer Joss Sanglier Vor 13 Jahren - Bearbeitet Hi Joss,Thanks a lot for your very detailed description. There are several aspects of it that I found very interesting and would like to discuss further about them.Since the comments in a blog post are not a very comfortable way for this type of discussions and I want anybody interested to participate, I've taken the liberty to create a new thread within the Core Dev in the forum. If you don't mind I'd like to follow the conversation there. I'm going to wait a day to answer to see if more people want to share what they think (and also to order some proposals I have in mind).http://www.liferay.com/community/forums/-/message_boards/message/8086106 Melden Sie sich an, um auf diesen Beitrag zu antworten. Antworten als... Abbrechen Joss Sanglier Jorge Ferrer Vor 13 Jahren Hi Jorge - that link doesn't appear to go anywhere Melden Sie sich an, um auf diesen Beitrag zu antworten. Antworten als... Abbrechen SZ khan Joss Sanglier Vor 13 Jahren http://www.liferay.com/community/forums/-/message_boards/message/8086106 Melden Sie sich an, um auf diesen Beitrag zu antworten. Antworten als... Abbrechen Jorge Ferrer Joss Sanglier Vor 13 Jahren Sorry about that, I've just fixed the link.@SZ Khan. Thanks for finding the correct link and publishing it here. Melden Sie sich an, um auf diesen Beitrag zu antworten. Antworten als... Abbrechen Lirone75 M. Jorge Ferrer Vor 12 Jahren I didn't understood anything you talking about.Organization, Community, site etc...From the outside, it seems, you solve problem that you introduced and you are the only one to understand and that will have a low benefit at the final for the user.If you have something to change it's not just changing a name but for example to break the static bound that exists between content (for exemple Web content) and the community/organization. A content is a content, and a system of permission should be made to be able to associate this content in the king of entities/pages. Melden Sie sich an, um auf diesen Beitrag zu antworten. Antworten als... Abbrechen
Jorge Ferrer Joss Sanglier Vor 13 Jahren Hi Joss,Those are definitely good points. The option to rename Sites as Communities will always be there just by overriding the keys in Language.properties that use the term.Another thing I plan to do is to provide some default site templates that use specific terms such as Community, Corporate Site, etc. That way when a user clicks the "Add" button within the Sites portlet he will need to decide as the first step whether he will be creating a Community or something else. Adding to that the fact that it will be possible to filter out which types of sites each user can create, then you get almost what you want.I guess the only issue would be the term of the entry in the Control Panel menu. Would that be a big deal in your case? Melden Sie sich an, um auf diesen Beitrag zu antworten. Antworten als... Abbrechen Joss Sanglier Jorge Ferrer Vor 13 Jahren HI JorgeIt was more from the control panel I was thinking. In a very complicated portal such as ours where much of the administration is done by a moderation team with assorted permissions, there would be situations where they would need to have control over communities/sites - either because they are creating them or because they need to manage them in a particular way (remove some pages, for instance)I think I can see some confusion growing between what is a group of people and what is a website.To me I tend to think of it with the following flow:1. A group of people come together and we call that a Community of people.2. The Community has tools to help them interact - although these are web based tools such as forums or personal messaging, they are seen as distinct from a Web Site.3. The Community decides to create a website for their community using tools provided.In a slightly odd way Liferay provides for this flow with public and private pages. As an admin I would set up a Community Template that has one public page with something innocuous on it like "Community X" right in the middle. I would then put set community tools on the private pages. (I am ignoring for the moment that the community can add their own pages).The community uses the private pages for establishing and conducting community affairs.If they want to create a "Site" then they would edit the public page.hmmmMaybe this is where the problem lies - rather than in what a Community is, perhaps it is in defining what the Public and Private pages are.I am not against changing a "Community" to a "Site" but I feel that it only addresses half a problem or a problem that only some people have. For some they are grouping people to create sites, for others they are grouping people to create communities. Most, I would suspect, are creating both at the same time - a community which then creates a site.(You could go cross eyes working out the semantics here)At the moment, while we are in design phase, we are being tripped up by this very confusion.A community will be created by an action in the online game. The grouping in the game will define the membership of the community (we will not allow members to join these communities via the portal itself).Once created, the Community is managed by the person who triggered the creation via the game (interestingly, they will not be the owner - that will be a shadowy figure they have no control over since we do not want any of them to have ownership rights).So, this is a community.Now, as part of their tool box, the members of that community can create their Site (public pages) if they so wish. As you can see there is a very defined difference between the community and their public presence - their "Site" if you like.Actually, I dont think this is confined to our particular use of Liferay; I think this is how human beings think naturally. We are a tribal creature and we define everything in those sorts of terms. Melden Sie sich an, um auf diesen Beitrag zu antworten. Antworten als... Abbrechen Jorge Ferrer Joss Sanglier Vor 13 Jahren - Bearbeitet Hi Joss,Thanks a lot for your very detailed description. There are several aspects of it that I found very interesting and would like to discuss further about them.Since the comments in a blog post are not a very comfortable way for this type of discussions and I want anybody interested to participate, I've taken the liberty to create a new thread within the Core Dev in the forum. If you don't mind I'd like to follow the conversation there. I'm going to wait a day to answer to see if more people want to share what they think (and also to order some proposals I have in mind).http://www.liferay.com/community/forums/-/message_boards/message/8086106 Melden Sie sich an, um auf diesen Beitrag zu antworten. Antworten als... Abbrechen Joss Sanglier Jorge Ferrer Vor 13 Jahren Hi Jorge - that link doesn't appear to go anywhere Melden Sie sich an, um auf diesen Beitrag zu antworten. Antworten als... Abbrechen SZ khan Joss Sanglier Vor 13 Jahren http://www.liferay.com/community/forums/-/message_boards/message/8086106 Melden Sie sich an, um auf diesen Beitrag zu antworten. Antworten als... Abbrechen Jorge Ferrer Joss Sanglier Vor 13 Jahren Sorry about that, I've just fixed the link.@SZ Khan. Thanks for finding the correct link and publishing it here. Melden Sie sich an, um auf diesen Beitrag zu antworten. Antworten als... Abbrechen Lirone75 M. Jorge Ferrer Vor 12 Jahren I didn't understood anything you talking about.Organization, Community, site etc...From the outside, it seems, you solve problem that you introduced and you are the only one to understand and that will have a low benefit at the final for the user.If you have something to change it's not just changing a name but for example to break the static bound that exists between content (for exemple Web content) and the community/organization. A content is a content, and a system of permission should be made to be able to associate this content in the king of entities/pages. Melden Sie sich an, um auf diesen Beitrag zu antworten. Antworten als... Abbrechen
Joss Sanglier Jorge Ferrer Vor 13 Jahren HI JorgeIt was more from the control panel I was thinking. In a very complicated portal such as ours where much of the administration is done by a moderation team with assorted permissions, there would be situations where they would need to have control over communities/sites - either because they are creating them or because they need to manage them in a particular way (remove some pages, for instance)I think I can see some confusion growing between what is a group of people and what is a website.To me I tend to think of it with the following flow:1. A group of people come together and we call that a Community of people.2. The Community has tools to help them interact - although these are web based tools such as forums or personal messaging, they are seen as distinct from a Web Site.3. The Community decides to create a website for their community using tools provided.In a slightly odd way Liferay provides for this flow with public and private pages. As an admin I would set up a Community Template that has one public page with something innocuous on it like "Community X" right in the middle. I would then put set community tools on the private pages. (I am ignoring for the moment that the community can add their own pages).The community uses the private pages for establishing and conducting community affairs.If they want to create a "Site" then they would edit the public page.hmmmMaybe this is where the problem lies - rather than in what a Community is, perhaps it is in defining what the Public and Private pages are.I am not against changing a "Community" to a "Site" but I feel that it only addresses half a problem or a problem that only some people have. For some they are grouping people to create sites, for others they are grouping people to create communities. Most, I would suspect, are creating both at the same time - a community which then creates a site.(You could go cross eyes working out the semantics here)At the moment, while we are in design phase, we are being tripped up by this very confusion.A community will be created by an action in the online game. The grouping in the game will define the membership of the community (we will not allow members to join these communities via the portal itself).Once created, the Community is managed by the person who triggered the creation via the game (interestingly, they will not be the owner - that will be a shadowy figure they have no control over since we do not want any of them to have ownership rights).So, this is a community.Now, as part of their tool box, the members of that community can create their Site (public pages) if they so wish. As you can see there is a very defined difference between the community and their public presence - their "Site" if you like.Actually, I dont think this is confined to our particular use of Liferay; I think this is how human beings think naturally. We are a tribal creature and we define everything in those sorts of terms. Melden Sie sich an, um auf diesen Beitrag zu antworten. Antworten als... Abbrechen Jorge Ferrer Joss Sanglier Vor 13 Jahren - Bearbeitet Hi Joss,Thanks a lot for your very detailed description. There are several aspects of it that I found very interesting and would like to discuss further about them.Since the comments in a blog post are not a very comfortable way for this type of discussions and I want anybody interested to participate, I've taken the liberty to create a new thread within the Core Dev in the forum. If you don't mind I'd like to follow the conversation there. I'm going to wait a day to answer to see if more people want to share what they think (and also to order some proposals I have in mind).http://www.liferay.com/community/forums/-/message_boards/message/8086106 Melden Sie sich an, um auf diesen Beitrag zu antworten. Antworten als... Abbrechen Joss Sanglier Jorge Ferrer Vor 13 Jahren Hi Jorge - that link doesn't appear to go anywhere Melden Sie sich an, um auf diesen Beitrag zu antworten. Antworten als... Abbrechen SZ khan Joss Sanglier Vor 13 Jahren http://www.liferay.com/community/forums/-/message_boards/message/8086106 Melden Sie sich an, um auf diesen Beitrag zu antworten. Antworten als... Abbrechen Jorge Ferrer Joss Sanglier Vor 13 Jahren Sorry about that, I've just fixed the link.@SZ Khan. Thanks for finding the correct link and publishing it here. Melden Sie sich an, um auf diesen Beitrag zu antworten. Antworten als... Abbrechen Lirone75 M. Jorge Ferrer Vor 12 Jahren I didn't understood anything you talking about.Organization, Community, site etc...From the outside, it seems, you solve problem that you introduced and you are the only one to understand and that will have a low benefit at the final for the user.If you have something to change it's not just changing a name but for example to break the static bound that exists between content (for exemple Web content) and the community/organization. A content is a content, and a system of permission should be made to be able to associate this content in the king of entities/pages. Melden Sie sich an, um auf diesen Beitrag zu antworten. Antworten als... Abbrechen
Jorge Ferrer Joss Sanglier Vor 13 Jahren - Bearbeitet Hi Joss,Thanks a lot for your very detailed description. There are several aspects of it that I found very interesting and would like to discuss further about them.Since the comments in a blog post are not a very comfortable way for this type of discussions and I want anybody interested to participate, I've taken the liberty to create a new thread within the Core Dev in the forum. If you don't mind I'd like to follow the conversation there. I'm going to wait a day to answer to see if more people want to share what they think (and also to order some proposals I have in mind).http://www.liferay.com/community/forums/-/message_boards/message/8086106 Melden Sie sich an, um auf diesen Beitrag zu antworten. Antworten als... Abbrechen Joss Sanglier Jorge Ferrer Vor 13 Jahren Hi Jorge - that link doesn't appear to go anywhere Melden Sie sich an, um auf diesen Beitrag zu antworten. Antworten als... Abbrechen SZ khan Joss Sanglier Vor 13 Jahren http://www.liferay.com/community/forums/-/message_boards/message/8086106 Melden Sie sich an, um auf diesen Beitrag zu antworten. Antworten als... Abbrechen Jorge Ferrer Joss Sanglier Vor 13 Jahren Sorry about that, I've just fixed the link.@SZ Khan. Thanks for finding the correct link and publishing it here. Melden Sie sich an, um auf diesen Beitrag zu antworten. Antworten als... Abbrechen Lirone75 M. Jorge Ferrer Vor 12 Jahren I didn't understood anything you talking about.Organization, Community, site etc...From the outside, it seems, you solve problem that you introduced and you are the only one to understand and that will have a low benefit at the final for the user.If you have something to change it's not just changing a name but for example to break the static bound that exists between content (for exemple Web content) and the community/organization. A content is a content, and a system of permission should be made to be able to associate this content in the king of entities/pages. Melden Sie sich an, um auf diesen Beitrag zu antworten. Antworten als... Abbrechen
Joss Sanglier Jorge Ferrer Vor 13 Jahren Hi Jorge - that link doesn't appear to go anywhere Melden Sie sich an, um auf diesen Beitrag zu antworten. Antworten als... Abbrechen SZ khan Joss Sanglier Vor 13 Jahren http://www.liferay.com/community/forums/-/message_boards/message/8086106 Melden Sie sich an, um auf diesen Beitrag zu antworten. Antworten als... Abbrechen Jorge Ferrer Joss Sanglier Vor 13 Jahren Sorry about that, I've just fixed the link.@SZ Khan. Thanks for finding the correct link and publishing it here. Melden Sie sich an, um auf diesen Beitrag zu antworten. Antworten als... Abbrechen Lirone75 M. Jorge Ferrer Vor 12 Jahren I didn't understood anything you talking about.Organization, Community, site etc...From the outside, it seems, you solve problem that you introduced and you are the only one to understand and that will have a low benefit at the final for the user.If you have something to change it's not just changing a name but for example to break the static bound that exists between content (for exemple Web content) and the community/organization. A content is a content, and a system of permission should be made to be able to associate this content in the king of entities/pages. Melden Sie sich an, um auf diesen Beitrag zu antworten. Antworten als... Abbrechen
SZ khan Joss Sanglier Vor 13 Jahren http://www.liferay.com/community/forums/-/message_boards/message/8086106 Melden Sie sich an, um auf diesen Beitrag zu antworten. Antworten als... Abbrechen
Jorge Ferrer Joss Sanglier Vor 13 Jahren Sorry about that, I've just fixed the link.@SZ Khan. Thanks for finding the correct link and publishing it here. Melden Sie sich an, um auf diesen Beitrag zu antworten. Antworten als... Abbrechen Lirone75 M. Jorge Ferrer Vor 12 Jahren I didn't understood anything you talking about.Organization, Community, site etc...From the outside, it seems, you solve problem that you introduced and you are the only one to understand and that will have a low benefit at the final for the user.If you have something to change it's not just changing a name but for example to break the static bound that exists between content (for exemple Web content) and the community/organization. A content is a content, and a system of permission should be made to be able to associate this content in the king of entities/pages. Melden Sie sich an, um auf diesen Beitrag zu antworten. Antworten als... Abbrechen
Lirone75 M. Jorge Ferrer Vor 12 Jahren I didn't understood anything you talking about.Organization, Community, site etc...From the outside, it seems, you solve problem that you introduced and you are the only one to understand and that will have a low benefit at the final for the user.If you have something to change it's not just changing a name but for example to break the static bound that exists between content (for exemple Web content) and the community/organization. A content is a content, and a system of permission should be made to be able to associate this content in the king of entities/pages. Melden Sie sich an, um auf diesen Beitrag zu antworten. Antworten als... Abbrechen
SZ khan Vor 13 Jahren Renaming communities to sites looks quite professional Melden Sie sich an, um auf diesen Beitrag zu antworten. Antworten als... Abbrechen
Artur Linhart Vor 13 Jahren Sounds really great, Jorge :-). Thanks Melden Sie sich an, um auf diesen Beitrag zu antworten. Antworten als... Abbrechen
Raymond Gardner Vor 12 Jahren Great change. I like it. We are new to Liferay. We were getting confused about the differences between Organizations and Sites. I think this will help clear up some confusion to newbies.Question: Will the database and API still be refered to as 'Groups'? Cause, that can also be confusing to newbies. Melden Sie sich an, um auf diesen Beitrag zu antworten. Antworten als... Abbrechen Jorge Ferrer Raymond Gardner Vor 12 Jahren Yes, the database will still be called Groups. There are several reasons for this, including the fact that changing it would cause a lot of changes in all APIs (the groupId is almost everywhere). Also, that table is used for other (similar) things other than Sites. Melden Sie sich an, um auf diesen Beitrag zu antworten. Antworten als... Abbrechen
Jorge Ferrer Raymond Gardner Vor 12 Jahren Yes, the database will still be called Groups. There are several reasons for this, including the fact that changing it would cause a lot of changes in all APIs (the groupId is almost everywhere). Also, that table is used for other (similar) things other than Sites. Melden Sie sich an, um auf diesen Beitrag zu antworten. Antworten als... Abbrechen
naresh reddy Vor 12 Jahren - Bearbeitet Hi Jorge,thanks for the nice post which really cleared my confusion regarding those two. Melden Sie sich an, um auf diesen Beitrag zu antworten. Antworten als... Abbrechen
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Raja Nagendra Kumar Vor 11 Jahren Could you also explain how to assign a site to domain or sub domain of the organisation and how does portal instances relate to site address Melden Sie sich an, um auf diesen Beitrag zu antworten. Antworten als... Abbrechen Thomas Berg Raja Nagendra Kumar Vor 11 Jahren "it will be possible for an administrator to associate an existing site to an organization at any time."How is this done? Melden Sie sich an, um auf diesen Beitrag zu antworten. Antworten als... Abbrechen Jorge Ferrer Thomas Berg Vor 11 Jahren Hi Thomas,Unfortunately the UI to do this did not make it into 6.1, but it is part of the plan and will be added in a later version. Melden Sie sich an, um auf diesen Beitrag zu antworten. Antworten als... Abbrechen Thomas Berg Jorge Ferrer Vor 11 Jahren Hi Jorge,Thanks for your answer! Sorry to hear that it won't be a part of 6.1 but good to hear it will be part of a future release. I think this feature is very important because only then, the pain of choosing site or organization is truly alleviated. If you have created a Site and at some point realize you need hierarchy, just create an organization and connect the site to it! Since there's currently no way to make a site into an organization (and vice versa), the problem with choosing still exists at this point.Regards/ Thomas Melden Sie sich an, um auf diesen Beitrag zu antworten. Antworten als... Abbrechen devaraj s Thomas Berg Vor 11 Jahren hi,, when i create organisation and group , two independent sites will create for org and group but my requirement is to achieve merge organisation and group sites into a single site .. Is this possible in liferay 6.1..??Please help meThanks in advance. Melden Sie sich an, um auf diesen Beitrag zu antworten. Antworten als... Abbrechen Thomas Berg Jorge Ferrer Vor 10 Jahren Hi Jorge,Just been looking at the latest Liferay 6.2 beta. Looks very nice and i'm looking forward to upgrading when it's released. One thing that worries me is that even in this version I cannot find a way to connect an existing site to an organization. Has this been feature been abandoned? Seems you're adding support for hierarchical sites, what's the rationale behind this decision?Regards/ Thomas Melden Sie sich an, um auf diesen Beitrag zu antworten. Antworten als... Abbrechen Jorge Ferrer Thomas Berg Vor 10 Jahren Hey Thomas,I'm glad you are liking 6.2.Regarding not having added the ability to link an existing site to an org, you are right and I feel really bad about it. The only reason is that it fell off my radar and we haven't received much feedback asking for it so it didn't become a priority for Prod Management either.I'll take a quick look tomorrow, but I doubt it will make 6.2, sorry. Melden Sie sich an, um auf diesen Beitrag zu antworten. Antworten als... Abbrechen
Thomas Berg Raja Nagendra Kumar Vor 11 Jahren "it will be possible for an administrator to associate an existing site to an organization at any time."How is this done? Melden Sie sich an, um auf diesen Beitrag zu antworten. Antworten als... Abbrechen Jorge Ferrer Thomas Berg Vor 11 Jahren Hi Thomas,Unfortunately the UI to do this did not make it into 6.1, but it is part of the plan and will be added in a later version. Melden Sie sich an, um auf diesen Beitrag zu antworten. Antworten als... Abbrechen Thomas Berg Jorge Ferrer Vor 11 Jahren Hi Jorge,Thanks for your answer! Sorry to hear that it won't be a part of 6.1 but good to hear it will be part of a future release. I think this feature is very important because only then, the pain of choosing site or organization is truly alleviated. If you have created a Site and at some point realize you need hierarchy, just create an organization and connect the site to it! Since there's currently no way to make a site into an organization (and vice versa), the problem with choosing still exists at this point.Regards/ Thomas Melden Sie sich an, um auf diesen Beitrag zu antworten. Antworten als... Abbrechen devaraj s Thomas Berg Vor 11 Jahren hi,, when i create organisation and group , two independent sites will create for org and group but my requirement is to achieve merge organisation and group sites into a single site .. Is this possible in liferay 6.1..??Please help meThanks in advance. Melden Sie sich an, um auf diesen Beitrag zu antworten. Antworten als... Abbrechen Thomas Berg Jorge Ferrer Vor 10 Jahren Hi Jorge,Just been looking at the latest Liferay 6.2 beta. Looks very nice and i'm looking forward to upgrading when it's released. One thing that worries me is that even in this version I cannot find a way to connect an existing site to an organization. Has this been feature been abandoned? Seems you're adding support for hierarchical sites, what's the rationale behind this decision?Regards/ Thomas Melden Sie sich an, um auf diesen Beitrag zu antworten. Antworten als... Abbrechen Jorge Ferrer Thomas Berg Vor 10 Jahren Hey Thomas,I'm glad you are liking 6.2.Regarding not having added the ability to link an existing site to an org, you are right and I feel really bad about it. The only reason is that it fell off my radar and we haven't received much feedback asking for it so it didn't become a priority for Prod Management either.I'll take a quick look tomorrow, but I doubt it will make 6.2, sorry. Melden Sie sich an, um auf diesen Beitrag zu antworten. Antworten als... Abbrechen
Jorge Ferrer Thomas Berg Vor 11 Jahren Hi Thomas,Unfortunately the UI to do this did not make it into 6.1, but it is part of the plan and will be added in a later version. Melden Sie sich an, um auf diesen Beitrag zu antworten. Antworten als... Abbrechen Thomas Berg Jorge Ferrer Vor 11 Jahren Hi Jorge,Thanks for your answer! Sorry to hear that it won't be a part of 6.1 but good to hear it will be part of a future release. I think this feature is very important because only then, the pain of choosing site or organization is truly alleviated. If you have created a Site and at some point realize you need hierarchy, just create an organization and connect the site to it! Since there's currently no way to make a site into an organization (and vice versa), the problem with choosing still exists at this point.Regards/ Thomas Melden Sie sich an, um auf diesen Beitrag zu antworten. Antworten als... Abbrechen devaraj s Thomas Berg Vor 11 Jahren hi,, when i create organisation and group , two independent sites will create for org and group but my requirement is to achieve merge organisation and group sites into a single site .. Is this possible in liferay 6.1..??Please help meThanks in advance. Melden Sie sich an, um auf diesen Beitrag zu antworten. Antworten als... Abbrechen Thomas Berg Jorge Ferrer Vor 10 Jahren Hi Jorge,Just been looking at the latest Liferay 6.2 beta. Looks very nice and i'm looking forward to upgrading when it's released. One thing that worries me is that even in this version I cannot find a way to connect an existing site to an organization. Has this been feature been abandoned? Seems you're adding support for hierarchical sites, what's the rationale behind this decision?Regards/ Thomas Melden Sie sich an, um auf diesen Beitrag zu antworten. Antworten als... Abbrechen Jorge Ferrer Thomas Berg Vor 10 Jahren Hey Thomas,I'm glad you are liking 6.2.Regarding not having added the ability to link an existing site to an org, you are right and I feel really bad about it. The only reason is that it fell off my radar and we haven't received much feedback asking for it so it didn't become a priority for Prod Management either.I'll take a quick look tomorrow, but I doubt it will make 6.2, sorry. Melden Sie sich an, um auf diesen Beitrag zu antworten. Antworten als... Abbrechen
Thomas Berg Jorge Ferrer Vor 11 Jahren Hi Jorge,Thanks for your answer! Sorry to hear that it won't be a part of 6.1 but good to hear it will be part of a future release. I think this feature is very important because only then, the pain of choosing site or organization is truly alleviated. If you have created a Site and at some point realize you need hierarchy, just create an organization and connect the site to it! Since there's currently no way to make a site into an organization (and vice versa), the problem with choosing still exists at this point.Regards/ Thomas Melden Sie sich an, um auf diesen Beitrag zu antworten. Antworten als... Abbrechen devaraj s Thomas Berg Vor 11 Jahren hi,, when i create organisation and group , two independent sites will create for org and group but my requirement is to achieve merge organisation and group sites into a single site .. Is this possible in liferay 6.1..??Please help meThanks in advance. Melden Sie sich an, um auf diesen Beitrag zu antworten. Antworten als... Abbrechen
devaraj s Thomas Berg Vor 11 Jahren hi,, when i create organisation and group , two independent sites will create for org and group but my requirement is to achieve merge organisation and group sites into a single site .. Is this possible in liferay 6.1..??Please help meThanks in advance. Melden Sie sich an, um auf diesen Beitrag zu antworten. Antworten als... Abbrechen
Thomas Berg Jorge Ferrer Vor 10 Jahren Hi Jorge,Just been looking at the latest Liferay 6.2 beta. Looks very nice and i'm looking forward to upgrading when it's released. One thing that worries me is that even in this version I cannot find a way to connect an existing site to an organization. Has this been feature been abandoned? Seems you're adding support for hierarchical sites, what's the rationale behind this decision?Regards/ Thomas Melden Sie sich an, um auf diesen Beitrag zu antworten. Antworten als... Abbrechen Jorge Ferrer Thomas Berg Vor 10 Jahren Hey Thomas,I'm glad you are liking 6.2.Regarding not having added the ability to link an existing site to an org, you are right and I feel really bad about it. The only reason is that it fell off my radar and we haven't received much feedback asking for it so it didn't become a priority for Prod Management either.I'll take a quick look tomorrow, but I doubt it will make 6.2, sorry. Melden Sie sich an, um auf diesen Beitrag zu antworten. Antworten als... Abbrechen
Jorge Ferrer Thomas Berg Vor 10 Jahren Hey Thomas,I'm glad you are liking 6.2.Regarding not having added the ability to link an existing site to an org, you are right and I feel really bad about it. The only reason is that it fell off my radar and we haven't received much feedback asking for it so it didn't become a priority for Prod Management either.I'll take a quick look tomorrow, but I doubt it will make 6.2, sorry. Melden Sie sich an, um auf diesen Beitrag zu antworten. Antworten als... Abbrechen
Atif Hussain Vor 11 Jahren Nice feature Jorge, I want to ask , can I make liferay construct and Organization structure on bydefault/startup. For example, in my case there is one organization on the first level, then on the second level there are 'n' organizations, then these 'n' organizations have 'n' children with users. So it is very difficult to make this whole structure through control panel, every time after Database refresh. Thanks in advance. Melden Sie sich an, um auf diesen Beitrag zu antworten. Antworten als... Abbrechen Jorge Ferrer Atif Hussain Vor 11 Jahren Hi Atif,The forum is a better place to ask that type of question. If you paste the link here I'll make sure to answer it. Melden Sie sich an, um auf diesen Beitrag zu antworten. Antworten als... Abbrechen
Jorge Ferrer Atif Hussain Vor 11 Jahren Hi Atif,The forum is a better place to ask that type of question. If you paste the link here I'll make sure to answer it. Melden Sie sich an, um auf diesen Beitrag zu antworten. Antworten als... Abbrechen